More About Convex Bags and Support Garments

This morning I saw the support garments lady at the hospital. I took in with me the wrap and pants I’d got from SupportX online some time ago, and she shook her head at them and said that neither was giving any real support at all, which I was pretty much aware of. I told her that the wrap kept rolling up at the back and was not wide enough top to bottom.

She suggested a proper belt with a Velcro fixing, and got several out for me to try, but again the back rolled up, and she said they were not really suitable for me, and that I’d be better with support briefs. These garments are all specifically designed for people with stomas.

We tried a pair of these and they were much better. They are made of very nice firm smooth stretch fabric and she said they would offer sufficient support to help prevent a hernia developing. Hernias are very difficult to treat and the operation is not always successful, and prevention is very much better than cure, and even though the support garments are expensive, they are a lot less of a drain on the NHS budget than a hernia operation.

She has ordered one pair for me to start with, and after a week or two, if they prove satisfactory, I can phone the number she has given me and they will order 2 more pairs. I am allowed 3 during one year, and she doesn’t want to waste my prescriptions by giving me 3 all at once, in case they aren’t right for me, but I think they will be fine.

On the subject of convex bags, after I spoke to the Coloplast rep at the open day back in June, I was told that I would be contacted once the new Sensura Mio convex bags were launched, and I would be sent some samples to try. I was told this would happen in the autumn. Not having heard anything, I phoned in October and was told they would be launched in November. I then heard that earlier this month someone on the stoma forum on Inspire had already got her samples, so I phoned again, and was told they would phone me, which they didn’t.

I phoned again last Friday and was told that someone would definitely phone me on Monday (yesterday) – they need to speak to you so they can fill in a form, getting information from you about the size of your stoma etc. so that they can send the correct samples out.

At 4 p.m. yesterday they still hadn’t phoned, so I rang them again and I was told that no way would I have been phoned yesterday because each request took 24-48 hours to process! She wanted to know who I’d spoken to, and of course I couldn’t remember his name… She could find no evidence that I had phoned at all! Honestly, I do get fed up with these firms that pass you from pillar to post and nobody will take any responsibility, and all they can say is, “They shouldn’t have told you that…” as if it is my fault!! I said I’d been waiting a long time, and had contacted them repeatedly, and I was anxious to get my samples asap as I wanted to be able to order them with my next order from my supplier if they were suitable, and I’d been deliberately running down my supplies. I told her yet again which days I’d be in and when I wouldn’t be available this week (I have 3 hospital appointments 3 days running) and she said she’d try and push for a phone call this morning (Tuesday) before we left for the hospital for my support garments appointment. Of course, there was no phone call.

She told me I might not hear before Friday! I told her that was a whole week on from when I’d first phoned them asking for samples. I really do think this is pretty shabby and I told her so.

I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if they phoned tomorrow when we are out. I wouldn’t put it past them…

I know they are inundated with requests for samples of these new bags, but I have been on the list to receive them since June, so surely I can hardly be considered to be at the end of the queue. I am wondering if I’m ever going to get them!!

Tomorrow I am going in to the day surgery unit so that my surgeon can examine my rectal stump under general anaesthetic. When I saw his registrar at the end of October he couldn’t see much because it was full of muck and pus, and it was rather uncomfortable having the proctoscope in for any length of time, so he said he would discuss it with Mr. Pullan who would probably want me in for a fuller investigation. I have to be there for 8 a.m. having had no breakfast. I should be home by lunch time, depending on how things go, and how soon I am over the anaesthetic and able to leave.

On Thursday I have my CT scan, and on 27th, bloods to be taken at the Ricky Grant (chemo) unit. On 30th November I am seeing the oncologist after she’s received the results of the scan and bloods, and I am hoping for the cancer all-clear! I counted up all my appointments this year since my diagnosis in mid-January, and up to and including the oncology appointment at the end of this month, the total is 49!!

Leeking Like the Welsh

Sorry about that…

Over the past couple of days I have been having a horrendous time with Kermit. My stomach has changed shape, Kermit has shrunk, and there is a definite depression around him as if he is being drawn into my abdomen. Starting yesterday at tea time I started getting acute itching in that region, and before supper I went up to change the bag and found it leaking along the crease from Kermit to my tummy button. I had put one of the new Trio silicone rings on in the morning when I changed the bag, and thought that perhaps it wasn’t forming as good a seal as it should. I had also applied one of their banana flanges, the the leak had penetrated up to the edge of this.

I immediately changed the bag, and the itching stopped for a while, but then it began again, and when I emptied the bag before bed, I noticed it had leaked again in the same place. I changed it again, this time putting on one of the new Hollister rings the stoma nurse had given me on Monday, and went to bed.

In the morning I got up to empty the bag and found it leaking badly on the other side, and this time (where there was no banana flange) it was leaking right out, all over my nice clean nightie!

I went into the bathroom and took it all off and it was a terrible mess. I thought I was really getting on top of the skin irritation problem but it was as bad as before with lots of little red spots. At this point I lost the plot and burst into tears, and could hardly see what I was doing… I called out to my hubby and he came running upstairs to find me sobbing with frustration and saying I couldn’t keep doing this… I couldn’t cope, and what on earth was going wrong?

He helped me as I put on another Hollister ring, and of the original bags I’d been given, thinking that perhaps it was the new version that I’d been given on Monday, and I patched it up well with the original banana flanges, and came down to phone the stoma clinic.

The tears were still very near the surface and appeared again as I spoke to the nurse. She said they’d ring me back, which they did a little while later, and asked me to come in any time before 4 p.m. and somebody would see me.

We had to stay in until 1 p.m. when the district nurse comes to do my Fragmin injections (only one left after today!!!) and we left immediately after she’d been.

We saw one of the HCAs on the stoma team and she had a good look at it. She removed the bag and looked at me lying, sitting and standing – lying down, the stoma looked fine, but as soon as I sat or stood, it seemed to retract into my belly fat.

She went to get a different sort of bag, and said she thought I needed a convex flange – this is a device which presses the peristomal area down, allowing the stoma to protrude more, so that it drains into the bag, and not under the flange.

Unfortunately, the new version of the bags I’d been using is a new design and the manufacturers have not yet produced a convex version, so she gave me another brand, this time from OakMed – their Hydrocolloid Soft Convex bag (SC45 4120KV).

This doesn’t have quite such a  nice closure, and it also has a double layer of plastic, making it rather difficult to get my mint tic-tac in the right section, and also to open the end when emptying, to put the loo paper inside to clean the opening.

This is what the convexity looks like from the side.

This is the opening seen from the other side. The piece stuck on is a flap with Velcro on it, which engages with the opening once it is rolled up (you roll it 5 times).

This is what it looks like closed.

Unlike the bags I’ve been using so far, this one has a soft cover on the front as well as the back, but there is an overlapping opening on the front so you can pull it apart to look through the plastic to see the stoma.

She cut it to size and put it on for me, and I put a tic-tac in, but of course put it in the wrong section, between the two plastic layers, so it did no good at all, and I couldn’t get it out later, because the bag had started to fill, and when I emptied it, it came away. I took more care about putting in the new one, to make sure it went into the right section.

The nurse said until things settled down, I was to stop using the Head & Shoulders shampoo, and the stomahesive powder, and the rings, and the banana flanges (unless I wanted the added security) – she said just to use a barrier wipe around the stoma after cleaning and drying it. So I am now back on a much simpler regimen for bag changing, and we shall see how we go.

She also gave me a belt to attach to it – it has little plastic loops to attach this to. You can see one of these on the second photo above. This belt is the most uncool thing out, and I feel a bit trussed up, but if it does the trick, I suppose I can put up with it.

I asked her about the Trio products and she said the box had arrived. She said they would not be able to supply them from the hospital because there were “so many suppliers and we can only use what’s in our cupboard.” I thought that was a shame, because if the product was better, they ought to be using it! She said I was free to get it myself, and I said I had been told by Trio that it was available free on prescription, and she said I was free to organise that through my GP. This is not the response I’d been hoping for – I thought they would have been a lot more enthusiastic about it! Certainly the stoma nurse I saw on Monday seemed very keen. It is such a new product and maybe more people need to be trying it and enthusing about it before the hospital starts to recognise that it would be a good thing.

I have now been wearing the new bag for several hours, and have emptied it once, and so far there are no leaks, so perhaps this is the solution. I am disappointed because I liked the other bags and I am not keen on the belt, but this may not be a permanent solution; she said that in the first weeks and months after surgery, things have to settle down and the body undergoes a lot of changes, and maybe one day I will be able to go back to a flat flange again. I suppose I’m just not that keen on all this chopping and changing!

When I started on this road, I thought I was doing so well, and it all worked like clockwork and I had no problems. Then the skin irritation started, and then the horrendous leaks, and I began to despair and feel really, really frustrated, and very scared that I might never get a handle on this. I have been to the stoma clinic three times in ten days and it’s awful for my hubby too – he’s worried when I don’t cope well, and he’s got to take me to the hospital all the time, and we’ve got enough hospital appointments scheduled as it is, without all these extra visits.

This morning I had changed the bag four times in 24 hours, and was so desperate that I wanted to phone the hospital lab and ask them to find my bowel, cut out the cancer, and sew it back in again so that I could go back to being the happy butt crapper I was before! Still, no good wishing such things, is it.

Onwards and upwards… Somehow we’ll conquer this, or I’m a Welshman.