Stoma Clinic Appoinment–Bag Advice and Support Garments

Recently I noticed that where the convex flange of my Coloplast bags sticks to my abdomen, it has been making the skin a bit red, and now that the moat has disappeared from around Kermit, I wondered whether perhaps I still needed to use convex bags, or whether I could return to the flat ones, so I contacted the stoma clinic and they arranged for me to come in and see someone after I had seen the surgeon at the hospital this morning about my rectal mucous discharge (see my Cancer Diary entry today for details of that appointment), as it was in the same department.

I saw Nita this morning, and she had a look, and said that my skin continued to look very clean and healthy, and that all was well. She said that Kermit does not protrude very much – we laughed when we reminisced how freaked out I’d been before my surgery, by the stoma clinic’s DVD with the young lady with the red willy on her tummy and how I’d asked Mr. Pullan NOT to give me one of those!! – but sometimes a bit of protrusion is no bad thing! She said that I should continue with the convex bags for now, but there may come a time when I could return to the flat ones. I do not mind either way, as I am happy with the Coloplast soft convex bags, and am awaiting the arrival of the new Mio convex bags – I just wanted to be sure they were still happy with how things were, so I was reassured. The main thing is to avoid the possibility of leaks, and if the stoma doesn’t have a very long spout, the convex bag does make it protrude more, so that the output is sure to go into the bag, and not seep out under the flange and start irritating the skin.

She said I had done the right thing, coming in to ask. If the skin redness gets worse, then it might be time to look again, but probably there wouldn’t be likely to be any change during the next two or three months.

When she removed the bag, she remarked on the banana flanges I was using and asked if they were the Trio ones, which I confirmed was the case, and how much I liked them. They are their Silex Flange Extenders.

I was also able to report that I was getting on very well with Patient Choice, my supplier, and how businesslike they were, emailing me as to when to expect my parcel to be delivered, etc. She was pleased to hear that, because she said that not all companies were that businesslike.

We also spoke about support underwear. I mentioned to Nita that I had been experiencing a bit of pain around the stoma and in my abdomen lower down, but that the surgeon had reassured me that there was no evidence of a hernia. People with stomas are much more at risk of developing hernias because their abdominal wall muscles have been compromised by the cutting of an opening, and support garments are a good idea to prevent hernias developing. The surgeon said the pain I had been experiencing could just be the development of some scar tissue – there may be some adhesions, especially as I have also had a hysterectomy (20 years ago) and there’s been a lot going on in that area, but it was nothing to worry about. Nita could see that the rather large SupportX pants I had on were doing very little in the way of support; even if they were smaller, the fabric was not particularly firm or stretchy.

A few weeks after I received the two pairs I’d ordered from SupportX, they sent me another two, which have remained in the drawer still in their original wrapping, so I took them in today and gave them to Nita to put in her cupboard in case anyone else wanted to try them.

She said we could do better than this, and suggested I came in to see the lady who does the girdle fitting, so I have an appointment on Tuesday 17th November in the afternoon.

Nita said that they were getting very good reports of the support underwear now available in regular clothing shops such as Marks and Spencer’s, Matalan and PriMark, and they were not expensive. She said in the meantime I could try those, so after my appointments at the hospital we went off and I got a couple of pairs of pants (they only had two in my size, but they will keep me going for now).

You can see that there is a lace panel on the front. The fabric the pants are made of feels very firm and stretchy, and I think they will offer a lot more support than the SupportX ones.

I told her that the SupportX wraps I’d been wearing at night were a perfect pain because they are not deep enough and keep rolling up at the back.

In SupportX’s picture it looks nice and deep but on me it seems about 2/3 the depth!

She said the girdle fitting lady should be able to provide me with something better, and in the meantime I told her I’d ordered some cheap pregnancy body bands from Ebay which I thought I would try.

These look a lot more generous! They were very cheap, so I hope they will be stretchy and supportive enough. They are supposed to support one’s back as well as one’s abdominal muscles, but we shall see.

Another advantage of these garments (and my main motivation for waning them originally) is that they hold the stoma bag in place so that it doesn’t flop about – this was something that used to bother me quite a lot at night. During the day, they help maintain a smoother profile so that the bag doesn’t show so much through one’s clothes.

Obviously I have had to pay for the belly bands and the Matalan pants myself (the were not too expensive either - £6 per pair), and I bought two pairs, intending to wear them over my regular underwear as I have done with the SupportX pants), but anything recommended by the girdle-fitting lady or the stoma nurse, manufactured specifically for stoma care, should be available on prescription. The products designed specifically for stoma care use often have a separate pocket to contain the stoma bag, keeping it out of direct contact with the skin, which obviously normal support garments available in regular shops do not.

This whole thing continues to be a learning curve! An interesting one, though. I have found the whole process both fascinating and educational!

Part of the problem is having to shop online for certain products, and not being able to handle them to see how stretchy and firm they are, and not being able to try them on. The advice of the stoma nurses is extremely helpful, though, and I am sure the appointment with the girdle lady will be informative and useful.

I offered my services as a volunteer to help anyone wanting to speak to someone who has a stoma, and she was happy to put me on their list. We had a chat about what it is like for people in the early days – I reminisced about my tears on the phone and in the clinic, when I felt totally unable to cope, and wanting to phone the hospital lab and ask for my colon back (minus the cancer!) so that it could be sewn back in and I could resume my life as a butt crapper!

There are times when one thinks one will never get to grips with the bag, as one’s body changes shape and the stoma shrinks, and you get leaks and skin irritation. All being well, and in the absence of other complications such as prolapses or hernias, suddenly things slot into place and one starts managing like a pro, and it just becomes part of one’s daily routine. I said how very comforting and reassuring it had been during those difficult times, to phone up (usually in a bit of a state!) to be told to come in and they’d fit me in, and they always managed to sort me out, calmly and efficiently, putting my fears to rest. She said that this was the bulk of their work, helping people out in the early days and teaching them how to manage, so it’s all in a day’s work to them! They are the unsung heroes of the colo-rectal world!

I hope anyone reading this, who is struggling through the early days, will be encouraged and reassured. It really is not that bad once you get used to it, and always remember that the stoma nurse is your best friend!

Do I Need to Change to a Different Bag?

On Friday I phoned the stoma clinic to see if they could fit me in on Thursday morning when I am due to see Mr. Pullan about my rectal discharge. They promised to phone me back but were very overstretched and understaffed, and I didn't hear anything until today. They say they can fit me in, and all I need to do is tell reception when I arrive, and they will be available once I come out from seeing Mr. Pullan. None of it should take too long.

The reason I want to see the stoma nurse is that recently I have noticed that my body has changed shape again and the moat around Kermit seems to have disappeared. Where the convex flange of the bag sticks onto my abdomen it is now leaving a reddish mark - not sore or anything, but it may be indicative that the bag is now putting undue pressure on my skin, and it may be that I no longer require a convex flange. I need to see the stoma nurse so she can have a look at it, and she will know whether I can return to flat-backed bags. It is now 7 months since my operation and I thought my body had stopped changing shape, but apparently not!

I have also noticed with the last two bag changes that there had been a bit of seepage of output underneath the flange. I am surprised there was no skin irritation, but it has been fairly thick output recently, and that may be something to do with it. I shall tell the nurse about this and see what she has to say.

When I spoke to the nurse on the phone today, I mentioned that I would like to go on their register of volunteers who are willing to meet with newbies and encourage them through their initial stages, pre- or post-operatively. I am managing so well now, and although I'm only seven months into my stoma journey, I know that I can encourage others on this path, and reassure them that it will get easier, and help them to come to terms with having a stoma. It is a huge change, and can be very frightening and daunting, but once one gets through the initial teething problems, there is no reason why one cannot live as full and normal a life as one did before.

Naughty Kermit

Last week Kermit (my stoma) decided he was fed up with his goodie-two-shoes image that I’ve been putting about, saying what a good little stoma he was, and how well behaved he was. While I was still in bed I realised that a leak was imminent – I could see it creeping under the banana flange – these are flange extenders that give you a bit more security as they increase the area of protection around the bag, and can give you a bit more time to deal with a leak.

I got up to deal with it immediately, and as I started moving, the other side of the bag (with no banana flange) failed and started to leak – I staunched the flow with loo paper while I emptied the bag and prepared to change it for a new one.

The reason I’ve been having leaks (and much less since using convex bags) is that my body is continuing to change shape, and I’ve developed a crease on the right hand side of the stoma as I look down, and this is the danger area, so I always use banana flanges on that side. I am looking forward to the new Coloplast SenSura Mio convex bags to come out – the Mio bags have a very soft flange that moulds itself well to your body, and I think this will help me a lot in leak prevention.

Next time I order from my supplier I am also going to order some of their Silex silicone flange extenders which are extremely thin and flexible and the best banana flanges I have sampled so far.

I much prefer to choose my bag changing times when Kermit is not active – doing it to deal with an emergency usually means I have to deal with a leaky stoma while trying to clean up and get the new bag on.

When I took the bag off, Kermit did behave himself very well and I thought I was going to get away with it, but suddenly he erupted like Mt. Vesuvius and sprayed brown liquid down my leg and onto my slipper, onto the storage tower where I keep all his equipment, and down the bathroom wall! This is what is known on the Inspire forum as a “Code Brown”! This is the first time it has happened to me, and I am just glad that it happened at home, in my own bathroom, and not while I was out and about! I have read horror stories on the forum of people having to deal with major eruptions in the middle of business meetings! I always go out with an emergency bag changing kit, and a change of clothing for my bottom half but so far so good!

The only other problem I have with Kermit is wind – the bag can blow up like an airship at times! These bags have a carbon filter which is supposed to allow gas to escape without odour, but I don’t find they work at all. One bag I tried did seem to release a smell (the bag deodoriser I was using) but the bag still blew up. People on the forum generally say they are not happy with filters and often enquire about bags without filters, which seem to be few and far between.

When ostomates get gas, just like with butt crappers, the gas makes a noise when it escapes! While I can no longer fart like a butt crapper, Kermit does make some very interesting noises at times – nearly always when we have company! He knows. Stomas are like children and animals. They always let you down at the wrong moment! The other day I had a visitor and Kermit made a prolonged, high pitch whistle! At other times he makes little froggy croaky noises (hence his name). When I’m on my own he’s usually as quiet as a mouse.

The joys of life with an ostomy. You have to see the funny side and just deal with it. I always tell people, and make a joke of it if he makes a noise. Everybody who knows me knows what has happened to me this year and it’s no secret, and everyone is very understanding. If I’m in a public place with strangers, I just say, “Don’t mind me – it’s just my stoma making his presence felt!”

Stoma Clinic Appointment

On Thursday 28th May I had my final regular appointment at the stoma clinic – up until now I have been attending fortnightly, and then this last appointment was three weeks on from the previous one. In the early days I was having to ask for emergency appointments in between, because of problems, but now that things have finally settled down and I am using the right bag to suit me, I do not have to attend again for the next three months. I am very pleased to have reached this stage at last, after a lot of teething problems (which I think everybody goes through in the early stages), because it’s good to have them behind me as I start my chemo. The chemo increases the stoma output and makes it a lot more liquid too, and I wouldn’t want to be dealing with this if I was still experiencing leaks and finding stoma management difficult.

At this appointment, the nurse discussed setting up my prescription for me. She told me the supply company would phone me in the next few days, and that she would send my prescription to my GP. After this, when I am beginning to run low on anything, I just have to contact the supply company direct and let them know what I need, and they will get the prescription from my GP, and in due course my parcel will arrive. Easy peasy.

She told me that in order to save the NHS money, my choices may be fairly limited. However, I know many people who are able to get both adhesive remover spray and wipes, and not just a choice of one, so it may be possible to ask for it and see what my GP will allow. If they say I can’t have certain things, so be it.

She has also ordered a couple of pairs of pants for me, and a wrap – I should be able to get more of these in due course – to hold the bag in place more securely and to stop bulged showing as the bag fills. I have found that it flops about a bit in bed, and a wrap will hold it in place. These will be sent from a different company so won’t arrive with my first parcel of supplies.

The nurse put a fresh bag on for me, and said that I had cut the hole too small – if there is no room for movement, one can develop granulomas which can bleed a lot and be a nuisance. However, as she cut it and applied it, the hole looked a lot bigger than what I had cut and I was pretty sure it was too big. She said she would send the template to the company and they would pre-cut my bags for me.

Over the next few hours, my worst fears were realised, and I could feel the itching and pain beginning again, and I knew the hole was too large. I left the bag in place until the following day and when I changed it, I was glad I’d caught it in time – the skin was beginning to redden, but it was not yet broken. I cut a fresh bag to the smaller size, and phoned the nurse to tell her what had happened. I asked that she phone the suppliers and ask them to send my first batch uncut, and I would forward my template to them in due course, and she was absolutely fine with this.

It was a very satisfactory appointment.

Yesterday the company phoned me and we discussed this, and other matters.

More Bag Problems and Changing Body Shape

Over the past couple of days I started to get some itching again, and last night when we were out, it got so bad that I couldn’t wait to get home and take the bag off and see what was going on.

The skin was quite irritated again so obviously there had been some contact with output from Kermit E.G. Robinson. I cleaned the area thoroughly and applied some Head & Shoulders shampoo which I left in contact for a few minutes (zinc content very good for skin problems) while I measured Kermit again – he now about 28 mm in diameter with a slight bulge – and cut a new bag to size. Once the H&S was rinsed off I prepped the area well with stoma powder and barrier wipe, and applied the new bag.

Within a short time – after I had put all the stuff away, of course! – I realised that there was a problem with this bag too, and pressing on the flange, realised that it did not seem to be sticking down properly, so I got everything out again and took it off.

This time I examined Kermit closely, and the surrounding area, and noticed that the “moat” which had developed recently and which had caused so many problems with leaks, had virtually disappeared. The stoma nurse had given me some Salts convex bags to help with this problem, and they were no longer working properly.

I decided to go back to one of my original Coloplast bags, with a Hollister ring, and also added a banana flange on the side nearest my tummy button, where there is still a crease in my abdomen where the first leaks occurred, and was pleased that for the rest of the evening everything seemed to be OK.

It is now mid-afternoon the following day, and so far so good! The itching has disappeared, and there don’t appear to be any leaks.

I shall be delighted if this situation lasts, because of the several bags I have tried, it is the Coloplast that I like the best. Fortunately I had several left when I was transferred to the convex ones, and when I see the stoma nurse tomorrow I shall discuss this with her.

The Hollister ring is rather thick, and I was a bit concerned that together with the bag flange, it came all the way up to the top of Kermit and I thought he might leak underneath again rather than outputting straight into the bag. Ideally what I would like is to use one of the new Trio silicone rings with the Coloplast bag – these are much thinner and automatically shrink to the size of the stoma, providing a good seal. I shall see what the nurse says tomorrow.

I am particularly pleased because the original Coloplast bags I was using are now available in the updated model which I like even better, with their very nice new covers, and I do hope I shall end up being able to use these permanently, and eventually get my home delivery set up, with these, the Trio rings, and also the Trio banana flanges which are brilliant – really thin, and transparent too.

I want to get this all sorted out before I start my radical chemotherapy which is due to begin perhaps next week. (See the Cancer Diary page on my other blog for full details of that.) Once the side effects of the chemo kick in, I am sure the last thing I shall feel like doing is messing about with bag problems.

This is quite a rollercoaster ride, getting the right bag and accessories and a good fit – one minute I’m “up” and feeling we’ve finally got it right, and the next I am in the pit of despair and wondering if I’ll ever get this sorted! Eventually I know I will, and a year from now I shall probably be doing it in my sleep and looking back on this time with amazement. It’s just getting there that’s the problem!

The changes are due to my body settling down after surgery. The swelling from the operation is going down, Kermit is shrinking, and also my weight has been changing a bit. I lost about a stone (14 lb) in hospital, and then, when I came home, because my dear hubby will keep giving me delicious and tempting little pots of desperately fattening puddings, and the fact he needs continuous lessons in portion control lol – I gained about 7 lb! I also battle with the habit of “finishing everything on my plate” with which I was indoctrinated as a child – I hate waste! – if it’s on my plate, I will eat it!! Anyway, I am working on this, and so far have managed to lose a couple of pounds. I am not dieting as such; before the operation the surgeon had told me to hold off my diet until everything has settled down and I am better, because my body needs the nutrients for energy and healing; but I do want to eat as sensibly as possible and not undo all the good I did before. After he told me to stop the diet, and with the postponements in my surgery, I managed to gain 7 lb before going into hospital!

With all these changes to my body, the shape of my stomach is bound to be in a bit of a state of flux. The operation wound now forms quite a valley vertically down my belly, and I have noticed that I have developed a couple of “love handles” running diagonally downwards from my hip bones since the swelling has reduced – some internal bulk has been removed with the colectomy, and together with the weight loss, there is some sagging of my belly. Gravity, gravity, all is gravity… Maybe the NHS would be good enough to give me a tummy tuck if I tell them it’s for the benefit of Kermit E.G. Robinson? Hmm.. I don’t suppose they will! I thought it was jolly mean of the surgeon merely to laugh when I asked if he’d scrape out all my tummy fat while he was in there – all he said was, “No… I’m afraid everybody asks us to do that!” Shame.

Scheduled Stoma Clinic Appointment

Today I had my second scheduled appointment at the stoma clinic – the first one was a fortnight ago today and all being well, I should not have been back again until today, but because of the leaking problems I had last week, I had to have two extra emergency appointments to get sorted out.

On Thursday when I saw the HCA, she said they only had one type of convex bag in stock so I’d have to go with that (the Oakmed Hydrocolloidal Soft Convex bag # SC45 4120KV) which I wasn’t too keen on, and over the ensuing days, I did not change my opinion of this bag.

The opening proved a real pain, and I never managed to empty the bag and clean the opening without getting output on my hands, and I really didn’t like the closure. I was hoping that today she would have some different ones in stock for me to try.

They don’t have much choice in convex bags at the clinic. She produced the only other one they have: the Salts Confidence Natural Convex bag #XNDL 1338.

This bag has a shallower convexity than the Oakmed one, and it is slightly softer. As you can see from the photo, the flange is divided into sections so that it fits any skin contours better. It has a viewing window over the stoma but it is not quite so easy to see more of the inside of the bag as it was with the Oakmed one. I much prefer the closure on the Salts bag, though; being more like my original Coloplast bags, with the Velcro wings, and the Salts bag has a nice large Velcro patch to hold the closure when you want to tuck it up inside the lining, giving a nice smooth profile at the bottom so that it doesn’t dig into your leg – I hated this about the Oakmed one! The flange is impregnated with aloe vera for skin health, and the bag has a nice anatomical shape too. Finally, the closure has a stiff plastic strip on either side so that you can press the sides together to open the bag, like the Coloplast bag – this is going to be nice and easy to empty and clean.

As long as there are no leaks, this seems quite a nice bag and I should be happy enough with it, but being a convex bag, the flange is somewhat rigid. It has belt loops like the Oakmed bag and although the HCA suggested I use the belt, I don’t think I will as I didn’t find it that comfortable and felt much too trussed up.

I was a bit disappointed not to see a stoma care CNS for the second time running – in my experience they have been a bit more willing to listen to my opinions and wishes. Again, the HCA was quite dismissive of the Trio products and said they’d seen them at a product show last year and she “hadn’t been impressed.” She did not like the idea of them being non-absorbent – she said that with the absorbent hycrocholoidal adhesives, any effluent was absorbed into the product, away from the skin, but on the Trio website they emphasise the fact that if the effluent is absorbed by the product it is in contact with the skin for longer. Not sure what I think about this now! Anyway, I told her how very impressed I’d been with the Trio samples I had had, and how easy it was to fit the ring, which shrinks automatically to a perfect fit around the stoma. I said I liked the idea of using a ring because it made the fitting of the bag less critical, but she dismissed this saying that once my supplies were set up, the bags would be pre-cut anyway. In the meantime, she has cut the bags for me, to last until my next appointment on Friday week (8th May) and what I do if Kermit shrinks any further during that time, I am not sure.

When she changed the bag, I had to ask her again to use more adhesive remover spray because she really hurt me last time by using insufficient spray and pulling the bag off too quickly. It wasn’t quite so bad this time but I still winced a bit!!

She cleaned the area with water and wipes, and then simply dried it and put the new bag straight on. I asked if she wasn’t going to use a barrier wipe and she said no; if you use these every time, they build up and stop the bags adhering properly! This is certainly not what I have been told before (or read online), and she also did not use any adhesive remover wipes to remove any residual adhesive still on my skin. She said “less is more” and said that my skin was beautiful and shouldn’t be interfered with – to me, the irritation is a lot better than it was, but it is still there – it is still a bit red and there are a few little red spots. She said she likes to keep the whole process as simple as possible and use the minimum amount of different products, but I don’t mind how much stuff I use if the result is going to be better! The specialist nurses seemed to take a different approach.

This makes my appointments somewhat confusing. I know I am still very much a beginner and should bow to their expert advice, but when it is conflicting, and when it conflicts with the advice of seasoned ostomates (who after all are living with a stoma every day, unlike any of the professionals, and know what works from experience), it is often quite hard to know what to do. I do know that I should be free to try different things and discover for myself what works best for me.

I have my own views and opinions, albeit based on fairly limited experience so far, but I do know what I like, and what I feel confident about, and over my past two appointments I didn’t really feel that these views and opinions were sufficiently acknowledged, but were simply dismissed.

My preferred option is still to have a mouldable ring (if necessary, a convex one) topped with my original flat-flanged Coloplast bag (the updated one: new Sensura Mio One-Piece Drainable). A ring will allow a better seal and make the fitting of the bag less critical, whether or not it is pre-cut. I would feel more confident with that extra layer of security; I have had enough problems with leaks and skin irritation and do NOT want to go down that route again!!!

When the sample convex ring I have ordered from Trio arrives, I shall try this combination and see how it goes.

I am now getting to the stage when I can’t wait for my body to settle down to its permanent state post-surgery, and to be able to exercise more of my own personal choice as to what products I use, and get a home delivery system set up which suits my needs and desires.

When we got back, there was a message from CliniMed, whom I had contacted yesterday for samples, and we had a long chat about different products, and she is sending me a pack of things to try. I also contacted Salts for some of their samples (including a sample of the bag the HCA gave me today), and I have ordered a sample of the Trio convex flange. All of these samples should arrive in the next few days, and I shall be very interested to try them in different combinations. More news on this later.

Leeking Like the Welsh

Sorry about that…

Over the past couple of days I have been having a horrendous time with Kermit. My stomach has changed shape, Kermit has shrunk, and there is a definite depression around him as if he is being drawn into my abdomen. Starting yesterday at tea time I started getting acute itching in that region, and before supper I went up to change the bag and found it leaking along the crease from Kermit to my tummy button. I had put one of the new Trio silicone rings on in the morning when I changed the bag, and thought that perhaps it wasn’t forming as good a seal as it should. I had also applied one of their banana flanges, the the leak had penetrated up to the edge of this.

I immediately changed the bag, and the itching stopped for a while, but then it began again, and when I emptied the bag before bed, I noticed it had leaked again in the same place. I changed it again, this time putting on one of the new Hollister rings the stoma nurse had given me on Monday, and went to bed.

In the morning I got up to empty the bag and found it leaking badly on the other side, and this time (where there was no banana flange) it was leaking right out, all over my nice clean nightie!

I went into the bathroom and took it all off and it was a terrible mess. I thought I was really getting on top of the skin irritation problem but it was as bad as before with lots of little red spots. At this point I lost the plot and burst into tears, and could hardly see what I was doing… I called out to my hubby and he came running upstairs to find me sobbing with frustration and saying I couldn’t keep doing this… I couldn’t cope, and what on earth was going wrong?

He helped me as I put on another Hollister ring, and of the original bags I’d been given, thinking that perhaps it was the new version that I’d been given on Monday, and I patched it up well with the original banana flanges, and came down to phone the stoma clinic.

The tears were still very near the surface and appeared again as I spoke to the nurse. She said they’d ring me back, which they did a little while later, and asked me to come in any time before 4 p.m. and somebody would see me.

We had to stay in until 1 p.m. when the district nurse comes to do my Fragmin injections (only one left after today!!!) and we left immediately after she’d been.

We saw one of the HCAs on the stoma team and she had a good look at it. She removed the bag and looked at me lying, sitting and standing – lying down, the stoma looked fine, but as soon as I sat or stood, it seemed to retract into my belly fat.

She went to get a different sort of bag, and said she thought I needed a convex flange – this is a device which presses the peristomal area down, allowing the stoma to protrude more, so that it drains into the bag, and not under the flange.

Unfortunately, the new version of the bags I’d been using is a new design and the manufacturers have not yet produced a convex version, so she gave me another brand, this time from OakMed – their Hydrocolloid Soft Convex bag (SC45 4120KV).

This doesn’t have quite such a  nice closure, and it also has a double layer of plastic, making it rather difficult to get my mint tic-tac in the right section, and also to open the end when emptying, to put the loo paper inside to clean the opening.

This is what the convexity looks like from the side.

This is the opening seen from the other side. The piece stuck on is a flap with Velcro on it, which engages with the opening once it is rolled up (you roll it 5 times).

This is what it looks like closed.

Unlike the bags I’ve been using so far, this one has a soft cover on the front as well as the back, but there is an overlapping opening on the front so you can pull it apart to look through the plastic to see the stoma.

She cut it to size and put it on for me, and I put a tic-tac in, but of course put it in the wrong section, between the two plastic layers, so it did no good at all, and I couldn’t get it out later, because the bag had started to fill, and when I emptied it, it came away. I took more care about putting in the new one, to make sure it went into the right section.

The nurse said until things settled down, I was to stop using the Head & Shoulders shampoo, and the stomahesive powder, and the rings, and the banana flanges (unless I wanted the added security) – she said just to use a barrier wipe around the stoma after cleaning and drying it. So I am now back on a much simpler regimen for bag changing, and we shall see how we go.

She also gave me a belt to attach to it – it has little plastic loops to attach this to. You can see one of these on the second photo above. This belt is the most uncool thing out, and I feel a bit trussed up, but if it does the trick, I suppose I can put up with it.

I asked her about the Trio products and she said the box had arrived. She said they would not be able to supply them from the hospital because there were “so many suppliers and we can only use what’s in our cupboard.” I thought that was a shame, because if the product was better, they ought to be using it! She said I was free to get it myself, and I said I had been told by Trio that it was available free on prescription, and she said I was free to organise that through my GP. This is not the response I’d been hoping for – I thought they would have been a lot more enthusiastic about it! Certainly the stoma nurse I saw on Monday seemed very keen. It is such a new product and maybe more people need to be trying it and enthusing about it before the hospital starts to recognise that it would be a good thing.

I have now been wearing the new bag for several hours, and have emptied it once, and so far there are no leaks, so perhaps this is the solution. I am disappointed because I liked the other bags and I am not keen on the belt, but this may not be a permanent solution; she said that in the first weeks and months after surgery, things have to settle down and the body undergoes a lot of changes, and maybe one day I will be able to go back to a flat flange again. I suppose I’m just not that keen on all this chopping and changing!

When I started on this road, I thought I was doing so well, and it all worked like clockwork and I had no problems. Then the skin irritation started, and then the horrendous leaks, and I began to despair and feel really, really frustrated, and very scared that I might never get a handle on this. I have been to the stoma clinic three times in ten days and it’s awful for my hubby too – he’s worried when I don’t cope well, and he’s got to take me to the hospital all the time, and we’ve got enough hospital appointments scheduled as it is, without all these extra visits.

This morning I had changed the bag four times in 24 hours, and was so desperate that I wanted to phone the hospital lab and ask them to find my bowel, cut out the cancer, and sew it back in again so that I could go back to being the happy butt crapper I was before! Still, no good wishing such things, is it.

Onwards and upwards… Somehow we’ll conquer this, or I’m a Welshman.

Stoma Clinic Appointment

I phoned the stoma nurse this morning because over the weekend, I noticed that my stomach was changing shape as the post-op swelling was going down, and a crease had developed between my tummy button and the stoma. This was causing the flange of the bag to crease, and I had a slight leak.

The stoma nurse told me they’d had a cancellation, and I could go in in the afternoon to see her. She had a look, and agreed that there was now a crease, and gave me some banana strips (or flanges) (also known as smilies) to stick around the edge of the bag flange to ensure against leaks. These strips are very thin and flexible.

She gave me two sizes, but fitted me with the larger one while I was there.

The banana flanges have more than one piece of backing paper, and you remove them one at a time, to make the flanges easier to handle and place accurately.

She also gave me some new rings to try. These are made by Hollister and she thought they might fill the gap a bit better. So far, so good, with this, and the banana flange!

I must say I do find these mouldable rings very difficult to manipulate. It’s difficult enough getting them to the right size and shape to fit your stoma, but when you press them down, they stick to your fingers and distort when you try to let go! In the end I used the backing sheet to press with, but I still ended up with rather a lumpy result. Another problem I am experiencing is that now the stoma is shrinking, it is not doing so evenly, and is now oval in shape, with a small projection at one side. I am hoping this will all settle down eventually, and become nice and round again, but in the meantime (made worse because I’m still very much a learner driver!) I am struggling to get a good fit with the bag and ring.

The nurse said that there was a bit of bleeding from the small projection – you often get small spots of blood when cleaning the stoma, and this is quite normal, but she said this little projection was a bit more vulnerable, so she cauterised it for me with a small drop of some chemical – I didn’t feel a thing.

She asked me how I was getting on with the bags I’ve been using, and I said I really liked them, particularly the way the bottom folds up and is secured with velcro, and you can tuck the fold up into the cover. She said that Coloplast had brought out a newer model of this bag, which I might like to try – the fabric is even better and more comfortable against the skin, and once I have the ones with the opaque cover on the front (instead of the transparent ones the hospital supplies), this cover does not snag on your clothes. The flange is very thin and flexible at the edge (much more so than the older model) and the whole thing feels a lot softer. She gave me several to try. I certainly like the look of them, and will try one at my next bag change tomorrow.

When I saw her last week, she brought in three carrying bags so that I could choose one. These bags are for taking your ostomy supplies in when you are out and about, and are provided by the various supply companies who do home deliveries of everything you need, all free on prescription – the bag you choose determines which company you will be dealing with long-term. I chose this bag.

It has lots of zipped compartments, and a large main compartment, with pockets for small items like adhesive remover, small air freshener spray etc. etc. Here it is opened up.

You can see my Vanish stain remover pot on the left – it has some ziplock bags inside, for emptying my bag if I’m caught short away from a loo! Also a pack of dry wipes. You can just see the pocket at the back, and there’s another one inside the front, as well as one on the outside at the front. The larger pocket on the right has a small towel in it for spreading over myself when changing the bag. On the flap there is a mirror – handy for lining up the bag correctly over the stoma, and you can just see above that, a metal hook, and a cord with a clip on it – this gives you a choice for hanging the bag if you haven’t got anywhere to put it down within reach. They seem to have thought of everything. The bag is very well made, and ideal for the purpose.

It is supplied by a company called Patient Choice. I am very glad that I chose the bag provided by them, because they are the only supply company that runs on a non-profit basis. They plough all their profits into stoma care and inflammatory bowel disease charities, and even run a service for collecting unwanted ostomy supplies for redistribution in the third world. I am very happy to be part of that!

The nurse said she would like me to keep the appointment we had made for a week today, so we can discuss how I’m getting on, and check that the skin inflammation is improved – I think it is getting better now, with the Head & Shoulders treatment, and also the application of the stomahesive powder and the barrier wipes. We also discussed an interesting new product (the subject of my next post) and by next week I will have had a chance to try it.

My First Leak, and Progress on Skin Problem

My tummy seems to be changing shape. It’s probably the operation swelling going down. There seems to be a crease developing between the stoma and my tummy button, and this morning I sprang a leak along this line. I had just emptied the bag in preparation for changing it, and was walking across the bathroom to get my towel and I felt something wet – and it had gone on my nightdress and onto my foot. Fortunately the bag was empty so it wasn’t a serious leak.

Removing the bag, the skin irritation seems to be somewhat reduced, although still far from cleared up. The stoma itself has shrunk a little, and now has a rather irregular shape which is a pain. Having the mouldable rings the stoma nurse gave me helps but it’s quite difficult to get a perfect fit. I am hoping that when the stoma eventually settles down to its final size, it will also settle down to a perfect circle!

This morning I tried to shape the mouldable ring to the stoma, and put on a new bag. There is definitely a crease and some wrinkling around the flange on the left, and I am going to phone the stoma nurse tomorrow morning (why do problems ALWAYS arise at weekends??!!) and see if she can supply me with some banana flanges (also known as smilies!) – these adhesive strips give added security around the perimeter of the flange.

Just when you think you’re getting there, another problem crops up! However, it’s early days, and things are still changing and settling down, so I must expect some interesting days ahead!

Dealing with the skin problem – I was quite confused about the order in which one should apply the different treatments, so last night I went on the Ostomy forum on Inspire and asked for clarification.

I was told that the first step after cleaning around the stoma, is to apply some basic Head and Shoulders shampoo (without conditioner) in a thin layer with my fingertip, and allow it to sit for a few minutes. Then rinse off thoroughly with wipes and warm water, until every trace is gone. Next step to dry the area thoroughly. Then apply the stomahesive powder, brushing away the excess so that the only powder remaining is that attached to the inflamed areas of skin. I was confused about when to use the barrier wipes, thinking that if you wipe the area, it would wipe away the powder, but I was told not to wipe, but to dab with the wipe – when you hear “wipe” you think “wipe” not “dab” lol!! Anyway, gently dabbing at the area applies the film on top of the powder, allowing the crust to form, which acts as an artificial scab which protects the skin and allows it to heal.

I tried this this morning and it seemed to work well. After ensuring that the area was completely dry, I applied the mouldable ring and eased it into shape around the irregular stoma, trying not to leave any gaps. Then I applied the new bag.

When the district nurse called today to give me my Fragmin injection I told her about the problem, and she had a look and could see the definite crease in my stomach, and how the bag flange was folding along it. She said it might be a good idea to go back to changing the bag daily to prevent a leak developing – with the aid of the adhesive remover, there is very little pulling on the skin, and even if there were, it would probably do less damage than further skin contact with stoma output. It’s all a question of balance.

Skin Problems

Since coming out of hospital, I have developed some dermatitis in the immediate peristomal area. I think this is due to the fact that I cut the hole in one of the bags slightly too large, exposing a small ring of normal skin to stoma output. This is not like normal poo; it has not had the benefit of passing through the colon where water is absorbed, forming normal stool; it is still very acidic, and while the small intestine lining is designed to withstand this (as is the stoma, formed by bringing the end of the small intestine to the surface and turning it back on itself and sewing it to the surface), normal skin is not; it can cause severe excoriation and can be very painful and uncomfortable.

I noticed that the area was becoming itchy and sore, and when I changed the bag the next day I could see some patches of red. Immediately after surgery, the stoma is quite large, and this shrinks gradually as the swelling goes down, until it eventually reaches its permanent size. The bags come with concentric circles marked around the hole, and you measure the diameter of the stoma and cut the hole to the correct size. Immediately post-op, my stoma measured 40 mm, and after a few days this was reduced to 35 mm. I cut several bags to this size in readiness, and the last one I used was slightly too large, because the stoma had shrunk a little more.

When I realised what had happened, I cut the next one to 30 mm (the next circle in), but this was slightly too small, and I think this caused the edge of the cut circle not to sit flush with my skin, allowing further leakage underneath.

The problem got worse until the area was swollen and red all round, and very uncomfortable. Last Friday we phoned the stoma clinic but they couldn’t fit me in on that day, and as I had an appointment on the Monday anyway (yesterday) they said it should be fine until then, and the itchiness did subside somewhat.

When I saw Helen, the stoma nurse, yesterday, she examined it, and after cleaning it thoroughly, she applied some special powder which stuck to the affected area and brushed away from the normal skin.

She then applied a mouldable ring around the stoma.

These rings are soft and pliable and can be pulled into shape to fit your stoma. She said this one was impregnated with manuka honey which has healing properties. The ring provides a leak-proof seal between one’s body and the bag. She gave me a supply of these.

She also told me not to change the bag daily, as I had originally been instructed to do, but to change it every two to three days; this is the normal frequency most people use, and it allows the skin to settle down and not be interfered with by pulling the bag away.

The bags are easy to remove, though, using a small aerosol spray adhesive remover, spraying as you go, as you peel the bag away from top to bottom.

People on the Ostomy Support forum on Inspire also recommend using a very small quantity of the basic Head and Shoulders anti-dandruff shampoo (not the one with added conditioner) applied to the affected area and then rinsed off well, and then dried and wiped well with a barrier wipe. To start with, I am following the advice of the stoma nurse but if this doesn’t work, I shall try the H&S remedy – it is the zinc content in the shampoo that is the magic ingredient.